Thursday, 30 January 2014

Jesus Christ! What is it with Christians and Dating!

[Updated on 08/05/2014.  H/T to Robert for pointing out that the I typed 'Immaculate Conception' when I mean 'Virgin Birth' in the second to last paragraph.]

Ya know, I just can't understand Christians sometimes, especially when it comes to dating, marriage and having children.  They say that we should all live a Christ-like life, picking up our cross daily (which is just a way of saying 'do that which brings you joy, & if it leads to suffering, then just endure the suffering, because the joy will outweigh the suffering which makes it worthwhile'), which is fair enough, because that's a principle of other belief systems (e.g. Odin hung on the tree, battered by winds, in order to do something that he wanted); but then when it comes to the matter of marriage & having children, they seem to lose the plot!  Heck, some of them (#cough Vox Day [1], cough cough#) even seem to think that serial monogamy and dating are totally justifiable by biblical standards!  (see his Alpha Game blog)  This is demonstrated in a simple graphic that shows the birth rate of different religious beliefs in the USA.  Note that Buddhists and Atheists are close to the bottom, and Catholics and Fundamentalist Christians are close to the top.

Search the bible for the word marry (there's an online King James bible search website HERE) and it soon becomes obvious that the New Testament teachings of Christ and the Apostle Paul were on the whole against marriage and having children.  This is in total contradistinction to the ethos of the Old Testament, which is neatly summed up in the line 'go forth and multiply'.  Below are two of the clearest statements of Christs teachings on marriage (emphasis added):

Matthew 19:8
He said to them, “Because of the hardness of your hearts Moses permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.” 10 The disciples said to him, “If such is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry.” 11 But he said to them, “Not all men can accept this saying, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way from their mother’s womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to accept it, let him accept it.”

John 20:35
[T]hose who are considered worthy to attain that age and the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage, nor can they die any more, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.'
The words of the Apostle Paul are much the same as Christ, which are in turn the same as the Buddha (as Arthur Schopenhauer and Cristian Lindtner have shown us) i.e. to avoid things that cause temptation (for temptation is sinful because it causes you to move rather than you moving yourself; i.e. you become bound/enslaved by the temptation, the desire, and thus unfree; in the same way that, say, an alcoholic is bound/enslaved by his desire to drink alcohol).
First Corinthians 7:8
But I say to the unmarried and to the widows that it is good for them if they remain even as I. 9 But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion

First Corinthians 7:27
Are you free from a wife? Do not seek marriage.

First Corinthians 7:38
So then he who marries his betrothed does well, and he who does not marry her will do better.

First Timothy 5:14
So I would have younger widows marry, bear children, manage their homes, and give the enemy no occasion for reproach.

After reading all of this one feels obliged to ask: Why do they do it? Why do Christians feel the need to find some obscure teaching from the bible (Old Testament or New) in order to justify their carnal desires? It could be any number of reasons, a few spring to mind:
- Peer pressure to revere the Bible and Christian Culture in general.
- Personal psychological weakness which causes them to cling to the Bible instead of critiquing it.
- A deep need to idolise the Bible as the only word of God, which causes them to accept every single passage of text in it, regardless of how ridiculous it is. (cf. the mis-translation of 'the virgin mary' which was originally a 'young maid'; which leads on to lots of beliefs about the Virgin Birth: "As early as the second century B.C. the Jews perceived the error and pointed it out to the Greeks; but the Church knowingly persisted in the false reading, and for over fifteen centuries she has clung to her error." (SOURCE))

Whatever their reasons for their actions there is one thing is clear: they're not following the teachings of Jesus Christ when it comes to dating, marriage, sex, having children, serial monogamy and 'game'.  Christ and coitus are not compatable.

[1] On a totally irrelevant side note, Vox Day/Theodore Beale is son of Robert Beale, a convicted tax evader, who worked for Pat 'Diamond' Robertson, during his bid for the presidency.  Pat 'Diamond' Robertson is so-known because of his infamous/alleged actions during the Rwandan Massacre.  I can't sum his actions up in words, because it's just too fantastical to be believed.  It's the kind of thing you'd see in a James Bond film and think 'nah, that ain't beleivable':
In 1994, in the aftermath of the Rwandan Genocide, Robertson solicited donations for his charity organization Operation Blessing International to provide medical supplies to refugees in neighboring Zaire (present-day Congo), where Robertson had allegedly negotiated a diamond-mining contract with Zairian dictator Mobutu Sese Seko. [24]According to two Operation Blessing pilots who reported the incident to the state of Virginia for investigation, rather than delivering relief supplies to refugees, the organization's planes were primarily used to haul diamond-mining equipment to Robertson's mines in Zaire.[25] 

From Vox Day to an African Dictator in three easy steps!



  1. I'm no biblical scholar but I believe you are confusing the Virgin Birth and the Immaculate Conception. A legitimate Biblical argument can be made for the former. However the latter has no Biblical basis: I.e. the idea that Mary remained a virgin her entire life and that even Jesus' siblings were by virgin birth.

  2. Yeah, you're right, my mistake. I meant to type 'Virgin Birth' when I actually typed 'Immaculate Conception'. Thanks for pointing it out.


    Why do people not believe that Christianity comes from God? Why do many who are raised in the church leave the faith?
    Why do many reject the terms for pardon under the New Covenant?

    Some believe the reason men reject the truth of Jesus and the facts of Bible is that church leaders have not proved that the Bible is true. They contend that if only church leaders would use the historical works found outside of Scripture, then men would believe the truth of Christianity.


    Hebrews 11:1-3 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good testimony. 3 By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible. (NKJV)

    Faith cannot be proven by studying extra-Biblical historical records about God, the Bible, and Christianity. Faith proven is not faith.

    Romans 1:16-17 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, the just shall live by faith." (NKJV)

    The gospel of Christ is the power to salvation. Extra-Biblical historical writings to not prove the gospel is true. You cannot prove faith.

    1 Corinthians 1:18-21 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.......21 it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. (NKJV)

    God saves men through preaching the gospel. God did not use extra-Biblical historical writings to prove that the gospel was true.

    Mark 16:15-16 And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 "He who believes and is baptized will be saved...(NKJV)

    Jesus did not tell the disciples to gather evidence outside of Scripture to prove that the gospel was true and then convince people of the gospel truth.

    Do people reject the truth of God, Christianity, and the Bible because church leaders fail to convince them by using the apologetics of extra-Biblical sources? No, they do not. You cannot prove faith nor force anyone to have faith.

    If men reject Jesus it is because they have not heard the gospel preached.

    If believers leave the church it could be because of lack of Biblical preaching. Not the lack of extra-Biblical evidence.

    If men reject Jesus, God, and the truth found in Scripture it could be because they are not honestly seeking God.



  4. Steve, nothing in your comment is related to any of the content in the blog post. The post says that if Christians believe that the Bible is the true word of God then they should should be celibate, as Christ and the Apostle Paul commands them to do. Most Christians don't follow the words of Christ despite the fact that they consider him to be the Son of God, that's what I'm highlighting: hypocrasy/inconsistency.

    As for the notion of 'just have faith' that's exactly what Hindu Saddhus do in India when they are performing 'miracles': they have faith. Faith that is no different to your faith. It's blind faith. Blind to the point where I've got to ask, "Why bother with the Bible if all that you claim to need is faith?" Faith that I, and everyone else on planet Earth, can get by ourselves.